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axterix173
10-02-2011, 03:44 AM
I've been looking around for a good 6505/5150 and just found out Peavey makes a combo of the 6505+. I'm pretty interested so far because well, it's cheaper than a head and I don't have to lug around as much. Does anyone have experience with it, I'll go to my local Guitar Center soon and try it out, but I want to know if there is anything drastically different from the head that isn't obvious ie. It's a combo, it's lighter...

Mr. G.
10-02-2011, 01:52 PM
If it's the 2x12 combo, it's really not much lighter than a half stack. It is one heavy mofo! I can't speak for the 1x12 version, though. I have the 2x12 version of the 5150, and it's well over 80 lbs.

The tone makes it worth it, though.

static
10-02-2011, 03:10 PM
If it's the 2x12 combo, it's really not much lighter than a half stack. It is one heavy mofo! I can't speak for the 1x12 version, though. I have the 2x12 version of the 5150, and it's well over 80 lbs.

The tine makes it worth it, though.


Suonds like it's the Peavy version of a Twin. Well at least they got the weight right.

axterix173
10-02-2011, 04:35 PM
By lighter I meant like more compact and I'm looking at the 1x12 combo. What would be a good speaker to replace the stock Sheffield? I was thinking Celestion or Eminence.

Keith
10-02-2011, 05:40 PM
The 1x12 combo is a nice small package, but you're not going to get a bunch of bottom end, if that's what you're looking for.

Depending on what you want as far as tone, I prefer V-30's myself. You can buy Veteran 30's for much less as they are the direct clones of the V-30's.

Celestion V30 vs G12H30 vsG12T75 vs K100 w Rivera Venus 6 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9acguJjsgDg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWK0sa7tlfI&NR=1

michaelinokc
10-02-2011, 08:39 PM
I tried one at a store here in Oklahoma City and loved it! I'm going to take my Gibson RD with Dirty Fingers up there and give it a whirl. It's a serious option on my short next amp list.

axterix173
10-02-2011, 10:11 PM
I've been looking at comparison clips and I'm leaning towards the Celestion G12T-75. Personally the V30 has more mids than I would like. What are Ohms?

Keith
10-03-2011, 12:23 AM
8Ω and 16Ω

axterix173
10-03-2011, 01:45 AM
8Ω and 16Ω

I mean in technical terms. What does it mean?

Joao
10-03-2011, 04:46 PM
I have the 112 combo. it's also heavy. I am thinking about changing the speaker, probably to a g12t75 from celestion or a manowar from eminence

candyman
10-03-2011, 06:10 PM
I can't vouch for the combo weight but i can tell you the tone is pure gain heaven!! lol

rudos1
10-03-2011, 06:32 PM
6505+ is the metal king...

srinivassa
10-03-2011, 08:21 PM
My Renegade 2x12 combo answers the question of whether God can make a stone so heavy He Himself cannot lift it. Yes, he can. It's called the "Egnater Rendegade 2x12 Combo."

I'd rather have the head and a 4x12 at this point, but now I am trapped in a dimension where only 2x12's exist. And it's like a heavy gravity dimension or something. I have to put on a biomechanical exoskeleton if I ever want to move any of my things.

Abulldog
10-03-2011, 10:41 PM
If I was going for a 6505, I would go for the head and just get a 2x12 cabinet. An avatar cab or Vader cab would be cool. I don't like 1 speaker combo's for metal amps as it tends not to deliver as much bottom end. Also, the speakers they typically put in those things are terrible, so you'll want to upgrade to at least a v30.

This is why I liked the 5150. It has 2 speakers, and is what I have been looking for, however, if you can find a 5150 head with the block letter EVH, instead of the Eddie Van Halen signature, then get it. Supposedly they're much better and can go for over $1000, yet, I sometimes find them going for $600 to $800, if the person selling it doesn't know that it is worth more.

Another thing about the combo vs head, is that the head's don't come biased because well, there is no speaker, but the combo comes biased with the speaker.

big_mak
10-05-2011, 03:49 PM
The combo won't be as tight as the Half stack either, and the combo won't be 100+watts. This is good or bad. I would agree to go with the head, and a 2x12 if you are concerned about weight as each piece should be lighter than hauling a combo. Peavey stuff is solidly built, it's all heavy. That's just what they have done for ever, and they do it quiet well.

Mr. G.
10-05-2011, 10:53 PM
Whats wrong with the stock Sheffield speaker? I personally really like that speaker, and think it is a great match for the 5150/6505.

Joao
10-05-2011, 11:38 PM
Imo very loose bottom end, and very agressive highes, specially on the clean channel. i think that it's not all because of the speaker, but a part of it may be

Mr. G.
10-06-2011, 11:45 PM
Weird. The Sheffields in my 5150 combo have a tight bottom end with no mud at all. Maybe you're using too much bass or something. I'll agree with the aggressive highs, but I like that. They aren't ice picky, though.

Joao
10-07-2011, 12:16 PM
Maybe a nice overdrive in front of it would solve the problem of the lows. Either way, everybody is celestion vintage 30 crazy in my country, and there are alot of g12t-75's for sell used for cheap prices. I found a guy who wants to sell 3 of them for 25€ each (they cost aprox 100€ new here). I think it might be worth a shot, as it will be cheaper than a new overdrive.
If i don't like it i can always make a homemade cab to put it in.

blues-n-cues
10-07-2011, 01:11 PM
maybe just add a 7 or 10 band eq in front of it. as far as overdrives go a boss sd-1 is hard to beat @ $39.00 u.s. & really smoothes out the sound if you even just use it for a lead boost.

that's a good price for 75's.

i checked out a 6505 combo a while back & damn it's a heavy beast. i wonder why they didn't put casters on them.:idea:

Joao
10-07-2011, 05:00 PM
blues, it sure is. imo the wheight is the worst thing about the amp. i am looking for a nice overdrive and eq to buy, but i only buy used (results of being broke), so i can only buy when i find good deals online

Mr. G.
10-08-2011, 01:46 AM
The Boss SD-1 sounds great with the 6505/5150. I've also used an MXR 6-band EQ with mine, and it sounds great as well.

The G12T-75 will sound very similar to the Sheffield. I prefer the Sheffield.

Joao
10-08-2011, 05:30 AM
that is great advice mr G. i will certainly take that under consideration. i gues it is only a matter of experimenting

axterix173
10-08-2011, 06:09 PM
The only reason I'm looking at the 6505 combo is due to the fact that a 6505+ head is twice the cost minus a 2x12 or 4x12 cab.

Joao
10-08-2011, 09:54 PM
yes. the 112 combo version is made in china in the same factory as the valveking, that's why it's cheaper

axterix173
10-10-2011, 03:33 AM
Is the 5150 the same as the 6505? IF it is then I'll consider it.

Mr. G.
10-10-2011, 05:08 PM
Exactly the same amp. Peavey had to change the name after EVH left them, but the amp hasn't changed.

axterix173
10-10-2011, 10:35 PM
I've noticed that 5150 heads are noticably cheaper than 6505 heads. Would it be a better buy to opt for a 5150 head and 2/4x12 cab over the 6505 combos?

Joao
10-10-2011, 11:39 PM
if you can find it for a good price, why not? The diference in volume shouldn't be that much, and the head is MIA. Just do the math about the tubes you will probably have to buy after buying the head, because you never know how are the tubes when you buy used.

If you like a really good distortion for hard rock and metal, i don't think you will be disapointed.
if you are going for cleans l fender, you might be a bit. cheers

axterix173
10-11-2011, 02:42 AM
Yea there's a few on craigslist here for $500 for the head.

blues-n-cues
10-11-2011, 05:38 AM
Exactly the same amp. Peavey had to change the name after EVH left them, but the amp hasn't changed.

didn't they add a gain stage & some newer components(basically an upgrade)?
i know BlackStone Cherry (some buds) use them & make them sound good but they tune down to D for most things.

lots of tubes to maintain in those things......

srinivassa
10-11-2011, 08:46 PM
Man, this thread is making me GAS for a 6505. I KNOW I don't need THAT. I think any thread with over 2 dozen positive posts in it will make me GAS for anything.

Mr. G.
10-11-2011, 09:15 PM
didn't they add a gain stage & some newer components(basically an upgrade)?
i know BlackStone Cherry (some buds) use them & make them sound good but they tune down to D for most things.

lots of tubes to maintain in those things......

You're thinking of the 5150II/6505+. They have 3 channels, and a nicer clean.

I just recently got introduced to BSC, and I'm really diggin' what I'm hearing.

axterix173
10-11-2011, 11:45 PM
Lol didn't realize this thread would get so long, anyways, whats a decent price for a used 5150 head?

big_mak
10-12-2011, 04:06 PM
I'd say $5-800 depending on the model and the condition. If you are straight metal, the block letter ones are what you want and may be harder to find.

Mr. G.
10-12-2011, 08:50 PM
Don't be fooled into paying more for the "block logo" than the signature logo. The only difference were the brand of tubes that came in them. The tubes in the block logo amps just happen to sound a little better to some people. There is no guarantee that the amp will still have the original tubes in it, so buyer beware. Don't buy into the hype!

big_mak
10-13-2011, 03:45 PM
That hype should equal better resals down the road when you get tired of full bore metal and look for something more refined.