Thinking Of An Echo Pedal

Silimtao · 02-17-2010, 10:55 PM

I like the echo of a guitar on a sustained note, and hearing the mild echo with the held note just decaying- nothing too overbearing, like I like most effects.

I use a delay, (mxr analog delay), set at the lowest delay so it fattens up the tone (along with the EQ pedal); the delay is so transparent, you can barely know it's there.

I do have a Boss Chorus....C-5 I think is the model. Think I can accomplish what I want 'tween the delay and chorus somehow (I really haven't messed much with the chorus, and don't even know where, how, or why I got it).

Or, is this the case where I want that echo on a sustained note, that I'll have to stomp the echo box? I don't want everything to be echoing, necessarily. I liked the effect when I added echo to a track I did, and didn't notice the echo except for the single, sustained notes. The echo was so transparent, I only noticed it with headphones on, still, without headphones, it added a dimension to the sound.

Suggestions, input, recommendations? Thanks in advance.

The Smitchens · 02-18-2010, 02:32 AM

I can vouch only for EHX's delay pedals as they're the only ones I've had personal experience with. And they're good for sure.

Silimtao · 02-18-2010, 02:53 AM

Well, I do love my mxr delay. I'm just trying to figger out if I indeed need an echo pedal to accomplish what I want, or do I go for a dedicated echo. I can get the delay to give me like a slapback echo on certain settings, but I wouldn't want that throughout. I'll have to check the settings on my delay and chorus and see if I can come up with some kind of magic.

Mr. G. · 02-18-2010, 09:57 AM

So you're wanting to use the mxr for a sort of ambient type delay that just thickens your tone, and then you want to have a short slapback delay for those few times you need it? Just get another delay... would be the simple answer. I don't know what the complicated answer is, so I'm just gonna stick with get another delay

Silimtao · 02-18-2010, 08:14 PM

I guess I'll have to mess with the mxr delay pedal to see if it give me that "decaying" note kind of sound. Maybe saying "echo" was wrong (?}. But I like the effect of a sustained note just hanging, then kinda slowly dying. I don't even know if I'm describing it well right now. I'll have to find that damn track where I heard the sustained note just slowly dying....coulda be reverb that I applied; I know I don't use echo on post processing. Bottom line is, I'm trying to accomplish what I did digitally, with my real life setup. Eh, i was up too late watching the Olympics last night,.

Mr. G. · 02-18-2010, 09:14 PM

Sounds more like you're talking about reverb. Maybe you should look into a digital reverb to compliment your delay.

Guitarist · 02-18-2010, 09:53 PM

you dont need an echo pedal just play really loud in a valley

Silimtao · 02-19-2010, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. G.

Sounds more like you're talking about reverb. Maybe you should look into a digital reverb to compliment your delay.

I have a crappy Behringer digital reverb pedal. Maybe I'll give it a go. It sounds REALLY digital though. Basically, I'm trying to accomplish live, what I've been able to do with some post processing effects. Maybe this weekend, I'll give it a shot.

Mr. G. · 02-19-2010, 09:58 AM

If the reverb has a tone control, turn it down so that the reverb is pretty dark. This will help kill some of the digitalness. I had a Digitech reverb once, and this was the only way it was usable. It also sucked all the tone out of my signal when turned off. I think the Boss or the Line 6 (discontinued) reverb pedals are pretty good. Or, if you want to go all out, you could get one like Akira got (there's a thread here somewhere).

Telewanger · 02-19-2010, 07:55 PM

Are you talking slapback?

The typical settings for slapback echo (for guitar) on any unit are between 100 and 200 ms and very few repeats.

You won't really hear it while playing, only right after you stop. It just fills up gaps. It is great for chicken picking, rockabilly, and solo instrumental songs from Joe Satriani, Steve Morse, Vai, Danny Gatton, and tons of others.

If you already knew this info, please ignore me!

I have been known to be brain dead on many occasions.

02-17-2010, 10:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
Silimtao Super Model Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: here Posts: 10,686	Thinking Of An Echo Pedal I like the echo of a guitar on a sustained note, and hearing the mild echo with the held note just decaying- nothing too overbearing, like I like most effects. I use a delay, (mxr analog delay), set at the lowest delay so it fattens up the tone (along with the EQ pedal); the delay is so transparent, you can barely know it's there. I do have a Boss Chorus....C-5 I think is the model. Think I can accomplish what I want 'tween the delay and chorus somehow (I really haven't messed much with the chorus, and don't even know where, how, or why I got it). Or, is this the case where I want that echo on a sustained note, that I'll have to stomp the echo box? I don't want everything to be echoing, necessarily. I liked the effect when I added echo to a track I did, and didn't notice the echo except for the single, sustained notes. The echo was so transparent, I only noticed it with headphones on, still, without headphones, it added a dimension to the sound. Suggestions, input, recommendations? Thanks in advance. __________________ Instant Karma's gonna get you...... If you don't know where you're going, you will probably end up somewhere else. <http://www.xcomment.com/g3/img/poster___boobs052708113237.gif>

02-18-2010, 02:32 AM	#2 (permalink)
The Smitchens Villainous Mastermind Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: 12-Lat, 32-Long Posts: 4,760	I can vouch only for EHX's delay pedals as they're the only ones I've had personal experience with. And they're good for sure. __________________ To that I say balderdash. *An egg - nature's perfect container. The container of all our hopes for the future.* *I think I am a genius, therefore I am a genius.*

02-18-2010, 02:53 AM	#3 (permalink)
Silimtao Super Model Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: here Posts: 10,686	Well, I do love my mxr delay. I'm just trying to figger out if I indeed need an echo pedal to accomplish what I want, or do I go for a dedicated echo. I can get the delay to give me like a slapback echo on certain settings, but I wouldn't want that throughout. I'll have to check the settings on my delay and chorus and see if I can come up with some kind of magic. __________________ Instant Karma's gonna get you...... If you don't know where you're going, you will probably end up somewhere else. <http://www.xcomment.com/g3/img/poster___boobs052708113237.gif>

02-18-2010, 09:57 AM	#4 (permalink)
Mr. G. Commander-in-Chief Join Date: May 2008 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 5,107	So you're wanting to use the mxr for a sort of ambient type delay that just thickens your tone, and then you want to have a short slapback delay for those few times you need it? Just get another delay... would be the simple answer. I don't know what the complicated answer is, so I'm just gonna stick with get another delay __________________ SQUIRREL!!!!!!!

02-18-2010, 08:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
Silimtao Super Model Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: here Posts: 10,686	I guess I'll have to mess with the mxr delay pedal to see if it give me that "decaying" note kind of sound. Maybe saying "echo" was wrong (?}. But I like the effect of a sustained note just hanging, then kinda slowly dying. I don't even know if I'm describing it well right now. I'll have to find that damn track where I heard the sustained note just slowly dying....coulda be reverb that I applied; I know I don't use echo on post processing. Bottom line is, I'm trying to accomplish what I did digitally, with my real life setup. Eh, i was up too late watching the Olympics last night,. __________________ Instant Karma's gonna get you...... If you don't know where you're going, you will probably end up somewhere else. <http://www.xcomment.com/g3/img/poster___boobs052708113237.gif>

02-18-2010, 09:14 PM	#6 (permalink)
Mr. G. Commander-in-Chief Join Date: May 2008 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 5,107	Sounds more like you're talking about reverb. Maybe you should look into a digital reverb to compliment your delay. __________________ SQUIRREL!!!!!!!

02-18-2010, 09:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
Guitarist My dads favorite mistake. Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: So Cal Posts: 1,748	you dont need an echo pedal just play really loud in a valley __________________ The one you can't get enough of.

02-19-2010, 09:58 AM	#9 (permalink)
Mr. G. Commander-in-Chief Join Date: May 2008 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 5,107	If the reverb has a tone control, turn it down so that the reverb is pretty dark. This will help kill some of the digitalness. I had a Digitech reverb once, and this was the only way it was usable. It also sucked all the tone out of my signal when turned off. I think the Boss or the Line 6 (discontinued) reverb pedals are pretty good. Or, if you want to go all out, you could get one like Akira got (there's a thread here somewhere). __________________ SQUIRREL!!!!!!!

02-19-2010, 07:55 PM	#10 (permalink)
Telewanger Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 927	Are you talking slapback? The typical settings for slapback echo (for guitar) on any unit are between 100 and 200 ms and very few repeats. You won't really hear it while playing, only right after you stop. It just fills up gaps. It is great for chicken picking, rockabilly, and solo instrumental songs from Joe Satriani, Steve Morse, Vai, Danny Gatton, and tons of others. If you already knew this info, please ignore me! I have been known to be brain dead on many occasions.

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