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Old 03-06-2010, 11:24 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I just thought about that for a bit and i started thinking about Jeff Healy because of the other thread and id honestly consider him one of the best guitarists to play the guitar. Ideas?
Sure. Healy was a fantastic player and one who never got he recognition he deserved. Sad how many times that happens.
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Old 03-07-2010, 12:00 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Maybe I misunderstood your original question- I thought you were inviting discussion.
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I'm not sure if your mixing me up with the OP.

I think with those who feel that if the like's of hendrix never were,we wouldnt have the diversity of playing we see today...i include with this band's as well,and without so and so there wouldn't be rock n roll as we know it.

I feel there is a missed point,and it's the creating individual,in as much sooner or later there was going to be a person or group who would push and revolutionize the scene.

In this case it was Jimmy,but it could well have been Benny down the road.

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There are those who get a wee bit tight in the shorts over Malmsteen. Not my bag. But I can certainly appreciate what he can do with a guitar.
I got a few of his album's and his trilogy suite blew my away.Saying that i think the way he carries himself leaves a lot to be desired.

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Old 03-07-2010, 02:11 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I'm not sure if your mixing me up with the OP.

I think with those who feel that if the like's of hendrix never were,we wouldnt have the diversity of playing we see today...i include with this band's as well,and without so and so there wouldn't be rock n roll as we know it.

I feel there is a missed point,and it's the creating individual,in as much sooner or later there was going to be a person or group who would push and revolutionize the scene.

In this case it was Jimmy,but it could well have been Benny down the road.



I got a few of his album's and his trilogy suite blew my away.Saying that i think the way he carries himself leaves a lot to be desired.

You're right. I was confused. No offense meant. I understand what you're saying.
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Old 03-07-2010, 02:28 PM   #24 (permalink)
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There is no way to compare Hendrix to the modern virtuosos of today. What he did had never been done before. He came up with his own way of playing based on a lot of blues and I'm sure other influences. He opened the gate in the 60's much the same way EVH did in the late 70's but even he got influences from the past, I've seen video of Chet Atkins doing 2 hand tapping from the 50's . I'd like to challenge anyone who does not appreciate Hendrix to learn Little Wing.

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Old 03-07-2010, 03:30 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I do like Jimi Hendrix, and certainly have respect for the man as a guitarist and artists/songwriter. He wrote some real kicking tunes, but I do agree with you, he is OFTEN VERY overrated.

However, so is Led Zeppelin, so is Pink Floyd, so is Eric Clapton, so is Black Sabbath, so are The Beatles, so are The Rolling Stones, and just about every major rock group from that era.

For us younger guys, bands like Zeppelin were the "pop" music of their day. There were plenty of people who followed Zeppelin just because it was popular, and there still are plenty of people like that today.

This is coming from a HUGE Zeppelin fan, I have to do my best to put my bias aside on this one. There are many people today who will talk about how great Led Zeppelin is, yet they know little to nothing about the band. Plenty of people give Led Zeppelin the "default" privilege" without really knowing ANYTHING about the band.

The 60s and 70s were HUGE times for music, and they produced a lot of fantastic musicians. But they are all overrated, and rightfully so.

Had these bands NOT been overrated all of us younger guys would have probably NEVER heard of them. My father probably would never have given me Physical Graffiti on cassette when I was a kid, and I probably never would have taken up an interest in guitar.

It is part of becoming a star to be overrated, the man NEVER lives up to the legend and expecting him to is just outrageous. So yes, Jimi Hendrix is overrated, but without that hype you would have never heard of him, or many bands for that matter.
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When Hendrix first hit he was all the rage because his style was so different.. As I heard more and more of him I said...meh...what's the big deal. Certainly was never a guitar idol to me.
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Being overrated is in the eyes of the individual. Some will say yes, other will say no, and others will be on the fence about it. Comparing today's musicians or virtuoso's to yesterdays is like comparing a 1966 Corvette to a 2010 Corvette. Both were/are fast, sexy and innovative for the era. The Corvette of lore started out as a something new, and back then, when something was new, it was dubbed the greatest.

By today's standards, the 1966 Corvette is now obsolete and a dinosaur. Slow, sloppy handling, not as responsive to the 2010. (Hence overrated today).But at the time, it was the best and the fastest.

See where I'm going here?

Just because it's functional does not mean it's fantastic, and just because it's fantastic does not mean that it's functional.
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Before ruling on his overrated or underrated status. Learn some of his stuff note for note.. It's a lot harder than it appears. His big influences past the blues were guys like Curtis Mayfield, who basically taught him how to play rhythym guitar and King Curtis who taught him how to follow sax lines on guitar.

All those fills and octave chords that we know now were basically unknown to most white guitar players of the times, until he arrived. And he did it upside down, a particularly uncomfortable way to play a strat.

That's the point. Stuff that alot of us take for granted was unheard until he arrived, in that, he is overlooked for his innovatons in PLAYING the guitar, not just making noise with a Marshall stack.

Is he Vai, Malsteem, Satch.. no, no where near the articulation, speed and economy, but he was the fountainhead.
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