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Old 05-18-2017, 07:37 PM   #11
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I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss Modern SS amps. Quilter and others are making amps that sound good, are reliable, and some end up on stage. Myself?? SS for home, tubes for going out only because it's what I have.
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So... tube amps are for old people and solid state are for younger ones?

Just kidding!
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Old 05-18-2017, 11:27 PM   #13
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Something for tube purists to think about: Who here with a tube amp doesn't have a dirt pedal, among others? Eric Johnson uses a DD-2 digital delay along with 20 other pedals.

So what's the difference in having all these effects externally and SS with onboard modeling? The biggest difference between the 2 that I can think of, is the nature of distortion in the two. Distortion on SS is thought of as "harsh," while distortion on tubes is considered "organic," but that's all subjective.

/The whole, "most people use tube" isn't proof of anything. It's simply a convention that's become popular. Prior to...possibly Ray(?) Davies slicing his speaker cone, distortion was once thought of as a horrible sound. Prior to guitar amplification, no one used what didn't exist.
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Old 05-19-2017, 12:29 PM   #14
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Something for tube purists to think about: Who here with a tube amp doesn't have a dirt pedal, among others?

Tube purist here, your Honor... Guilty as charged.

The lone pedal I have is an Ibanez Weeping Demon wah that has been in my storage unit, unused for years.
My rig consists of tube amps (exclusively), guitars and either Mogami or Monster cables.
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When an amp is pushed hard at stage volume, the diff between SS and a *good* tube amp is how the amp compresses sound waves. A solid state amp cuts off the tops of the sound waves... on an oscilloscope, the sound waves appear "hard edged" and jagged, producing odd order harmonics which to the ear can be non-musical and harsh sounding.
A (good) tube amp smooths over the sound waves (literally compresses them, but they still look like smooth waves) and the amp tends to get that sound we all love... even order harmonics, liquid sustain, and an almost vocal tonality.

*IMO, an amp is not "good" just because it has tubes. It seems that some tube amp mfg's build an amp with tubes just to be able to SAY it has tubes, but the amp doesnt sound like anything special... and there are tube amp builders that "get it" and build killers (Friedman or Soldano, for example). There most definitely are tube amps out there that have tone ranging from "meh" to outrageous, but there is no question that "outrageous" almost always comes with a fat price tag.*
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I do have a couple of distortion pedals on my board, but I mainly use the amp for my overdrive and lead sounds. I only use a Rat II with the drive backed right off to get that sort of very light break-up you get on some of the early soul records (Steve Cropper's sound) and a Metal Muff on one song, but in all honesty if I didn't have those pedals I'd happily play a gig without them. Most guys who use a drive pedal use it to drive the tube amp harder rather than for its own intrinsic sound
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