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Old 01-03-2018, 03:20 AM   #1
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You can go to about 1:00 for the first line. I don't have an issue with how the guitars sound. I have an issue with what the guy says. You decide...

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Old 01-03-2018, 03:37 AM   #2
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I really don't know but my guess is that there is not much of a difference if any.

I know that in 1966 John Lennon got his Casino and a friend told him it would sound better if he had the heavy paint sanded off it and he had that done. I think he then put on a light coating of something. Eventually I read that he had it put back to normal.

I don't think it really matters.
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They're broken in already and they just play better. I thought I could hear the guitar breathing and there's just something about smoke and Coke embedded in a well worn guitar that gives me that tone that I crave.

Guitar Magazine has tested a lot of guitars so I do value their opinion and Fender has made a lot of guitars and they should know what they are talking about as well.

My choice would be the Alder as it's light and resonates well.
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They're broken in already and they just play better. I thought I could hear the guitar breathing and there's just something about smoke and Coke embedded in a well worn guitar that gives me that tone that I crave.

Guitar Magazine has tested a lot of guitars so I do value their opinion and Fender has made a lot of guitars and they should know what they are talking about as well.

My choice would be the Alder as it's light and resonates well.
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Old 01-03-2018, 04:56 AM   #5
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Well, I made up to the 4 minute mark before I couldn't stand any more of his BS. IN MY OPINION....... He has fallen into the same trap that so many other guitarist have fallen into. Thin finishes only apply to acoustic guitars because the tops vibrate and a heavy thick finish can dampen the vibrations. On a solid body, the whole body carries the vibrations and the paint has very little to do with dampening the vibrations. The hardness or softness of the solid body wood tends to brighten or soften the tone. If your ear is so critical of whether the paint has an effect on the tone, then you should be playing a $20,000 guitar instead of a $1,500 guitar. I've played a ton of old Fenders and Gibsons and they are like driving old vintage muscle cars. They are worn out tools and need an overhaul before they are back up to snuff. The wide fret crap is still an ongoing argument. Gibson says they make the guitar play in tune better. No they don't. When they get all worn down, they make the string's touchdown point change. Skinny frets make the instrument play in tune better because the touchdown point never changes with wear. Wide frets last longer. Give me a choice between a brand new axe and an old worn out axe and I'll take the new one. With that said, if you find an old vintage axe that has never been played, grab it.
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Since my strat is brand new, I should sand off the finish to break it in. That damn pau ferro fretboard is the cause for the lousy tone.
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Just more marketing-driven hokum.

I've seen this guy's demo vids before - he's a twat burger of the highest order.

That said, these guitars are CLEARLY going after the "mojo" market - the "vibe" crowd. And why not? I've written extensively on my own thoughts about the "relic" phenomenon in general but I'm past the point of judging people if this is the aesthetic they're looking for. Given the amazingly wide range of different guitar personas and "looks" out there who am I to say this is inherently any better or worse than day-glo hot pink pointy guitars or cigar box guitars, or axes that look like actual axes with blood spatter and that kind of stuff? The relic thing ain't for me personally but it's nowhere NEAR the dumbest looking aesthetic trend in the guitar world.

Where I take issue with this PARTICULAR facet of the mojo myth is it's pseudo science, it's saying that mojo not only definitively exists, but that it can be manufactured in a factory as well. It's a bridge I won't cross, but to those that do, I hope you find the tone you're looking for on the other side - power to you!
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He and GuitarWorld are just corporate shills, so I watch but I don't take anything they say seriously. Hell, 3/4 of the guitar related content on the Internet is no different.

I love the way a time-worn guitar looks. Well, some of them anyway. The cost of the originals put them beyond my reach. I feel dirty for saying it, but I actually like the way some of the reliced guitars look. I'm not likely to pay much extra for it though and it better be modern on the inside.

I've thought about making one myself. It would be a fun project and cool to play afterward. It's like a rat-rod. primer and fake rust
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Give me a choice between a brand new axe and an old worn out axe and I'll take the new one. With that said, if you find an old vintage axe that has never been played, grab it.
I'd almost certainly take the new guitar over the vintage unplayed. At any price point, I believe we are making the best electric guitars today.
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Exactly... on a brand new chassis with a brand new motor, tranny, suspension, etc. IMO, the whole thing is psychological. Players like the look and feel of a well worn in guitar that plays really well, and has none of the issues an actual old guitar can have.

Fender, Gibson, Fano, mjtele, etc are just playing on peoples psyche... and making mondo bucks at it, I might add.
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