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Old 04-11-2015, 02:22 PM   #1
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What do we all thing of it? Whatever the genre (e.g. avant garde, classical, etc.)

I really dig it, especially Terry Riley, Tony Conrad, etc.
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Old 04-11-2015, 02:39 PM   #2
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Like most aspects of music/playing, it has it's place. To illustrate: there are times when watching EVH shred a solo, jamming about 575 notes into a 30-second solo is great; then there's times when watching DGilmour do a spine-tingling 3-minute solo using about 6 notes is amazing too.
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some people can never get enough of minimalism.

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some people can never get enough of minimalism.

Hahaha.

I like my music to make sense. I don't want it stuck on rails
, but some of that avante garde stuff goes right over my head. Some of the early Floyd stuff I didn't care for, although an old hippy friend of mine says its classic Floyd haha.

It won't do your creativity any harm though G if you like it

Take from it what you find useful, and make it uniquely your own.
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As Frank Zappa once said, one chord is fine, two chords is pushing it, three chords is too much.

That said, variety is the spice of life AND music. I've written tracks that use one chord, although they tend to use that one chord and it's associated minor, sus, and 6 or 7 type variants.

Minimalism has it's place, but for me a great chord progression is what makes a track stand out from the crowd.
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As Frank Zappa once said, one chord is fine, two chords is pushing it, three chords is too much.

That said, variety is the spice of life AND music. I've written tracks that use one chord, although they tend to use that one chord and it's associated minor, sus, and 6 or 7 type variants.

Minimalism has it's place, but for me a great chord progression is what makes a track stand out from the crowd.
1 chord stuff isn't bad, but I'm more keen on classical and avante garde stuff which is about instruments other than the guitar. Spacemen 3 is always a group I've never been able to 'get'. Same with punk, really. I find that pretty dull.
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Like most aspects of music/playing, it has it's place. To illustrate: there are times when watching EVH shred a solo, jamming about 575 notes into a 30-second solo is great; then there's times when watching DGilmour do a spine-tingling 3-minute solo using about 6 notes is amazing too.
+1.

I think players that make a habit of either max shredding or super minimalism are almost trying to make a point of the technique they're DOING, rather than the music they're playing.
Its more or less like everything in life... moderation. Some of both, not an excess of either.
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For some reason it won't play. I guess minimalist music does not affect song length?
I noticed that too!

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+1.

I think players that make a habit of either max shredding or super minimalism are almost trying to make a point of the technique they're DOING, rather than the music they're playing.
Its more or less like everything in life... moderation. Some of both, not an excess of either.


Some of the most interesting music makes use of both speed and minimalist approaches.
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You know what? I happen to be listening to Talking Heads doing "Psycho Killer" this very minute!

"Say it once, why say it again?"

To some degree, the whole idea of punk is based on minimalism. Short, compact songs, no indulgent solos, simple song construction, etc.

I'm good with it - especially the idea of using simple, minimalist parts that when combined form a complex whole. Hell, that definitely goes back as far as Phillip Glass and Terry Riley, but more recently Radiohead's built their entire career around it.

It can definitely make for some great music!
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This is one of my favourite Tony Conrad pieces. It's minimalist avant garde but perfectly demonstrates to me the brilliance of minimalism. It's a mad concept, and shouldn't work, but it does. It's fascinating and yet ridiculously simple.
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