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Old 04-09-2015, 11:26 AM   #1
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Default Intermediate player wanting to learn Jazz Blues

Hi all,

I have been playing guitar for a few years now however have purely developed my ear and learnt by writing my own songs in various styles.
As a result I can't read music and have little to no formal music theory (in terms of scales, chord progression theory and chord construction).

I love the jazz blues chord phrasings and that laid back chords with melody lines thrown into it but don't really know where to start...


Could I ask the experienced blues/jazz/jazz blues guitarists as to where I should start?


Many thanks in advance,


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Old 04-09-2015, 11:37 AM   #2
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Study some music theory on the web. I think it helps to use a keyboard.
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Old 04-09-2015, 12:53 PM   #3
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Thanks Hi Hat,
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Old 04-09-2015, 02:43 PM   #4
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Lots of good lesson material on the web but not much sense of direction. A good teacher can get you on the right track and running full speed ahead with a few months of weekly lessons.
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You can jazz up regular blues scales by noodling around and learning how to use some chromatics. Just adding some chromatic runs can really jazz up a blues solo.
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Old 05-21-2015, 11:32 PM   #6
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Hi MattJoyce,

Some of the advice here is really quite nice, regular blues scales with some chromatics thrown in by ear is a great way to get some of the bluesy jazz sounds.
However, I get the vibe that you want to understand more of what you are actually doing and appear to have an interest in sight reading and theory to aid your bluesy/jazz playing further?

Sight reading isn't something to be insecure of in this day and age, there are many fantastic musicians that can't read, and I don't think from what you are asking, that learning to read is really a priority for you.

I do however believe that for blues, understanding how the chords work in the major scale and pentatonics will be huge development in your understanding of music.
but furthermore, I use the Caged system with arpeggios to get a bit of my jazz on.
It's all very major in sound, I also love to utilise Melodic minor to get a real mean edge.

However, this isn't helping you, I am probably confusing you.

1. Do you know your major and minor chords in any key all over the fretboard?
2. Do you know your major7, min7, and dom7 chords in any key all over the fretboard?
3. Do you know all five pentatonic shapes over the fretboard?
4. Do you know the CAGED major scale shapes all over the fretboard?

If any of these are no, fill in the gaps, these first 4 tips are where I would get any potential jazzer started.

I hope this helps.
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+1 on the above post. Great advice, especially on knowing chord shapes. Knowing chords commonly used in jazz and then learning some inversions can really help out on the jazz front.
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What are you listening to? The key to learning jazz is listening to jazz.
And the elephant in the room has been addressed. haha.
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And the elephant in the room has been addressed. haha.
I would say this applies to all music, not just jazz. I can't tell you how many times I was having a hard time learning a song and by listening to it over and over and over again in the car, suddenly it all clicked.

But yes, listening is an important part of playing IMO.
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