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Old 01-10-2018, 04:10 AM   #21
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I wonder is this follows the same philosophy as the Buzz Feiten system. I got one one my ex-Washburn, but I did not quite notice how different it was compared to my other guitars.

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Old 01-10-2018, 04:44 AM   #22
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What a load of crap. This thing reminds me of the guitar someone came out with that had a bent fret in the first position that was supposed to correct intonation problems on that string. Geee.... I wonder why we don't see those on all new guitars. Hmmmmmm..... I think I know why.
I'm not an enthusiast either, but it takes all sorts. I'm surprised there hasn't been more interest in movable frets, as on a sitar.

The imperfections in a guitar's intonation are IMO part of its character.
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Old 01-10-2018, 08:19 AM   #23
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But as soon as you fret a string, the nut is removed from the picture. Along with any compensation.
Ummm... no. The entire length of the string falls into the equation, not just the length between the fret and the bridge.

This is one of those things where people will argue without having tried it. Try before you cry, I say.

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Old 01-10-2018, 01:31 PM   #24
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Ummm... no. The entire length of the string falls into the equation, not just the length between the fret and the bridge.

This is one of those things where people will argue without having tried it. Try before you cry, I say.

I'm taking bets.
Are you saying that the length of string between my fretting finger and the nut makes a difference in the intonation? How could that be possible? What about the length of string between the nut and tuner post?
I'm not being snarky here, you may know something that I don't, and I'm curious.
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Old 01-10-2018, 01:59 PM   #26
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I have tried a few of these nuts and really couldn't tell much of a difference. I did break one installing it. I would go with a tusq nut myself, I think they run about $10-12. One thing I did like that axemasters sells is what they call a florentine nut. It is scalloped between the strings, sounds good and looks very cool.
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In order for your guitar to play perfectly in tune everywhere on the fret board. Your fretboard would have to look like this one. This is a True Temperament fret board.

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Are you saying that the length of string between my fretting finger and the nut makes a difference in the intonation? How could that be possible?
Imagine the neck being a foot longer than it is (or even an inch longer), but the 12th fret being the same distance from the bridge saddle. Tune the string to E. Will you get an E at the 12th fret then?

The guitar is not a tempered instrument. You can get perfect pitch at open and 12th, but ALL other frets are going to be slightly off-kilter, no matter how you slice it. Compensating at the head of the neck as well as at the bridge can bring things a teeny bit closer to true. If this weren't the case, why don't we just make things easier and cheaper by having bridges made with a non-adjustable saddle?

Try a compensated bridge sometime. Everybody (including several who teach at the conservatory - trained ears here) who has tried mine has said Oooooh or Aaaaaah or Holy Fucking Shit the second they hear what it does.
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In order for your guitar to play perfectly in tune everywhere on the fret board. Your fretboard would have to look like this one. This is a True Temperament fret board.

Exactly. And even that would be slightly off-kilter depending on string thickness and how much tension is added due to action height.
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Are you saying that the length of string between my fretting finger and the nut makes a difference in the intonation? How could that be possible? What about the length of string between the nut and tuner post?
I'm not being snarky here, you may know something that I don't, and I'm curious.
Whoa, hang on. There is a difference in intonation of a long scale neck(Strat) and a short scale neck(LP). Long scale necks play in tune better than short scale necks. Then why are there short scale necks? Because you don't have to stretch so far when playing Jazz chords. Don't take my word for it, even though I'm right, check around and verify what I said.
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