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Old 07-09-2014, 08:23 PM   #1
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Default Why do Americans think global warming is a scam/not real?

Not saying all do, but from what I've seen Americans tend to have it as a political ideology, as opposed to a scientific fact. Just wondered if this was just an impression given from forums, ect, or was actually a real thing.
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Old 07-09-2014, 08:54 PM   #2
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Some parts denial, some parts seeing it being used as a political weapon by the left, some parts have to do with certain climate researchers having been caught using dishonest methods, some parts not understanding that a local cold spell or a cold season doesn't mean that a global trend is invalid, and there are some parts that are simple skepticism. Oh, and then there are also some fundamentalist Christians who believe that the world is ours to use as we see fit and will suit our needs just fine until Armageddon.
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While most don't dispute that there is a warming trend, long term data suggests that the earth goes through warm/cold cycles and has throughout history. What some do dispute is man-made warming. The fact that all of the the 'solutions' seem to line someones pockets, primarily at the expense of US citizens (no restrictions are being suggested for China and India and other grossly polluting nations), there exists skepticism. Also, the fact that it is now taught like a religion is rather disturbing. Any research or findings to the contrary is vilified.

In short, it's a complicated subject.
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Old 07-09-2014, 09:05 PM   #4
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I've never heard an American say that in my life

Who did you hear say that to make you think that?
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Old 07-09-2014, 09:21 PM   #5
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Oh there's plenty of genuine "deniers".

I suspect part of the reason is that the subject is rarely, if ever, presented in an objective undogmatic manner. It's so often infused with ideology (from both sides) that it's tedious to sift through it all for kernels of truth.

It also matters that proposed solutions are usually put forth without any cost/benefit analysis, or they're ineffective, or worse, counterproductive...ethanol for instance. Any opposition to these proposals is usually equated with being callous, ignorant, or misinformed on the entire subject, resulting in both sides only further entrenching themselves in their respective beliefs.
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Old 07-09-2014, 09:23 PM   #6
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Oh there's plenty of genuine "deniers".

I suspect part of the reason is that the subject is rarely, if ever, presented in an objective undogmatic manner. It's so often infused with ideology (from both sides) that it's tedious to sift through it all for kernels of truth.

It also matters that proposed solutions are usually put forth without any cost/benefit analysis, or they're ineffective, or worse, counterproductive...ethanol for instance. Any opposition to these proposals is usually equated with being callous, ignorant, or misinformed on the entire subject.
I suspect you are 100% correct. Good post.

Nothing to see here. Now close this thread.
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Old 07-09-2014, 09:46 PM   #7
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To answer your question, most people in America only choose to believe what their respective source of news believes. They fail to search for multiple sources and forum an intelligent opinion on their own accord. Instead, they let Generic News Anchor #1487 tell them what to believe.

My thoughts on global warming:

Global warming isn't a myth. Blaming humans as the only/main cause, which is common, is a myth. While we as a species do, in fact, add to the rate at which the earth continues to warm, our influence is really on the low end of the spectrum.

In other words it's a cycle that we just happen to be kinda 'pushing in the wrong direction'.
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While most don't dispute that there is a warming trend, long term data suggests that the earth goes through warm/cold cycles and has throughout history. What some do dispute is man-made warming. The fact that all of the the 'solutions' seem to line someones pockets, primarily at the expense of US citizens (no restrictions are being suggested for China and India and other grossly polluting nations), there exists skepticism. Also, the fact that it is now taught like a religion is rather disturbing. Any research or findings to the contrary is vilified.

In short, it's a complicated subject.
Good post reopen the thread.
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Old 07-09-2014, 10:28 PM   #9
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Is the earth going through a warming period? Sure, why not. The real question for me is, "Do I give a shit?" to which I can answer a resounding "No."
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Is the earth going through a warming period? Sure, why not. The real question for me is, "Do I give a shit?" to which I can answer a resounding "No."
If you're speaking for 85% of American's, this seems like the most logical explanation.

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