A road map for Theory.

jase · 03-17-2010, 10:19 AM

I am new to theory,and confused of where to start,i know major chords,pent scales etc,but dont know how to put them all together and understand the bigger picture of why it's all connected.

I have been frustrated,with looking at hundreds of sites on the internet that talk about the same thing in what it seems a hundred different ways.

The above is a hypothetical ,to find out if it is possible to lay out in chronological order a 'road map' of learning theory for beginners,that can be a standard everyone can agree on.

Anyone ?.

Agmundr · 03-17-2010, 11:06 AM

I would suggest learning the relationship between scales and chords, such as how they come up with chords by using scales, and see what you can get from there. I know this is a guitar forum, but you can learn a good bit of basic theory on Online Bass Lessons at StudyBass.com for free and it'll help out on any instrument you pick up.

Silimtao · 03-17-2010, 11:28 AM

And the links here are very useful as well: Useful Theory Links

I agree with Agmundr to a degree, but before the relationship between scales, I would do the relationship between notes- the intervals. There's a few threads on those. I would start on the very basics before jumping ahead- what intervals make a major scale for example? And stop shouting at your guitar. Well, not while the kids are asleep.

lespaulgb · 03-17-2010, 11:45 AM

+1 to learning intervals first. All scales and chords are made up of them, so it'll see ya right for a long time.

jase · 03-17-2010, 12:14 PM

Right ok,so as a suggestion we start with Scales and chords.

1.learn the relationship between Scales and chords.

Is this the best one to begin with ?.If yes could there be a proper link to go along with each step....thats what i was hoping to do,and kind of the point i was trying to make.

Ok now without sounding a bit fair weather and 2 faced...we can go with.

1. Intervals.
2.Chords and scales.

I know there are links on the forum...but was thinking more of something clearly set out with a relevant link next to each stage.

Agmundr · 03-17-2010, 12:14 PM

Very good point, learning the intervals and the notes on the fretboard would quite naturally be first. I forgot about that :P

jase · 03-17-2010, 12:43 PM

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and the notes on the fretboard

Would learning the notes come from understanding the intervals ?.Where would knowing the notes on the fretboard come into learning theory if we was to follow it in logical stages ?.

Clifford D · 03-17-2010, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jase

I am new to theory,and confused of where to start,i know major chords,pent scales etc,but dont know how to put them all together and understand the bigger picture of why it's all connected.

I have been frustrated,with looking at hundreds of sites on the internet that talk about the same thing in what it seems a hundred different ways.

The above is a hypothetical ,to find out if it is possible to lay out in chronological order a 'road map' of learning theory for beginners,that can be a standard everyone can agree on.

Anyone ?.

Hey jase, I'm confused. I've seen many posts where you say you are getting it.

Let everyone know what you do feel confident with.

Do you understand the major scale???

Give us an idea of what you do know..

Agmundr · 03-17-2010, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jase

Would learning the notes come from understanding the intervals ?.Where would knowing the notes on the fretboard come into learning theory if we was to follow it in logical stages ?.

Well, if you include the steps that I forgot (lol@ myself for that one), the first thing you do is learn the 12 notes that make up Western music, and from there you go on to learn intervals.

jase · 03-17-2010, 01:52 PM

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Hey jase, I'm confused. I've seen many posts where you say you are getting it.

Cliff,read my post again it was done in the style of coming from anyone new wanting to learn theory,but who has hit a wall of confusion where the subject is concerned.

lay out in chronological order a 'road map' of learning theory for beginners,that can be a standard everyone can agree on.

So far we have,

1. Intervals.
2.Chords and scales.

Do you agree or disagree ?...do you think it's good to learn sight reading before these or not ?...

Is it possible to set it out in logical stage by stage steps for learning theory ?

Simplify it.

03-17-2010, 10:19 AM	#1 (permalink)
jase Do what thou wilt. Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,283	A road map for Theory. I am new to theory,and confused of where to start,i know major chords,pent scales etc,but dont know how to put them all together and understand the bigger picture of why it's all connected. I have been frustrated,with looking at hundreds of sites on the internet that talk about the same thing in what it seems a hundred different ways. The above is a hypothetical ,to find out if it is possible to lay out in chronological order a 'road map' of learning theory for beginners,that can be a standard everyone can agree on. Anyone ?.

03-17-2010, 11:06 AM	#2 (permalink)
Agmundr Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Fort Benning, GA/Iraq Posts: 35	I would suggest learning the relationship between scales and chords, such as how they come up with chords by using scales, and see what you can get from there. I know this is a guitar forum, but you can learn a good bit of basic theory on Online Bass Lessons at StudyBass.com for free and it'll help out on any instrument you pick up. __________________ I have a dream of a world where a chicken can cross the road without having its motives questioned. AKA SchecterLover on TalkBass.

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Silimtao Super Model Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: here Posts: 10,686	And the links here are very useful as well: Useful Theory Links I agree with Agmundr to a degree, but before the relationship between scales, I would do the relationship between notes- the intervals. There's a few threads on those. I would start on the very basics before jumping ahead- what intervals make a major scale for example? And stop shouting at your guitar. Well, not while the kids are asleep. __________________ Instant Karma's gonna get you...... If you don't know where you're going, you will probably end up somewhere else. <http://www.xcomment.com/g3/img/poster___boobs052708113237.gif>

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lespaulgb Guitaraholic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire Posts: 1,295	+1 to learning intervals first. All scales and chords are made up of them, so it'll see ya right for a long time. __________________ LesPaulgb; Star Fleet, caring, humanitarian, likes sausage and mash and cookery, has a Les Paul guitar. Homepage for lespaulgb My Soundclick lespaulgb on Youtube My Guitar Forum The Music Forum

03-17-2010, 12:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
jase Do what thou wilt. Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,283	Right ok,so as a suggestion we start with Scales and chords. 1.learn the relationship between Scales and chords. Is this the best one to begin with ?.If yes could there be a proper link to go along with each step....thats what i was hoping to do,and kind of the point i was trying to make. Ok now without sounding a bit fair weather and 2 faced...we can go with. 1. Intervals. 2.Chords and scales. I know there are links on the forum...but was thinking more of something clearly set out with a relevant link next to each stage. Last edited by jase; 03-17-2010 at 12:20 PM.

03-17-2010, 12:14 PM	#6 (permalink)
Agmundr Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Fort Benning, GA/Iraq Posts: 35	Very good point, learning the intervals and the notes on the fretboard would quite naturally be first. I forgot about that :P __________________ I have a dream of a world where a chicken can cross the road without having its motives questioned. AKA SchecterLover on TalkBass.

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